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(vo) go national. go like a pro. see what i did there? looks like president trump has a new way to avoid mccain's legacy and mueller's reach. a hot notion that google is out to get him. now, he's choosing fertile ground to launch a conspiracy. shadow banning and legitimate questions about the search engine google and other major platforms that go to our privacy and their algorithms and their larger responsibility to protect our democracy -- all legit. not to mention why i get ads for all kinds of supplements when i'm e-mailing my friends about fight class. there's a lot going on that we have...

That's unfortunate. listen, donald trump has achieved some pretty extraordinary stuff. he started off as an outsider. he was able to lead an insurgency, take over his party, win, and actually govern d.c. and florida. he's not only the king. he's the king maker. he doesn't have to stoop to the kind of stuff he does. he's actually on the merits from his point of view doing a really good job. but then he does stuff like this, and when you add this to the google thing where he's threatening private companies, where he's lying about a violent agenda -- you talk about the unfortunate violence agains...

Provider of that. if you look at martha blackburn's campaign this year, she tweeted out a pro-life statement that google decided to take down. that is not something that has happened to pro-abortion candidates. it has happened to pro-life candidates. >> why did they say they took it down, marc? because there's more to that story with that with blackburn. why did they take down a pro-life statement? >> i think that as i recall, their concerns were about there were certain parts of the pro-abortion industry that was marketing fetus hard body parts and marcia had made that case and i think very f...

That's very dangerous, and i don't think it's fair. i think the president should be very careful about stuff like that. >> i'll agree with you on one thing. i believe in a strong media. i believe the media is essential, and i believe the media has to be trusted. let me give you an example of just today. dweert blew up and said -- reporters tweeting and stories were written that said president trump's adviser today said he wants to regulate google. when you look at the question he was asked, would you consider regulation? he said we're looking at it. he didn't say we want to regulate google. he...

Together, continues to throw out this red meat and alarm people frankly on both sides. it's a cheap way to govern when frankly on the merits, he's actually been achieving most of his objectives. she just talk about that. >> mike, i know the topic of google, even though i suggest that the president saw what was on fox last night. he saw that pj media article. he decided to tweet about it this morning. him and his concerns about himself aside, you see an issue. >> yeah. i mean first of all, vice news, hardly a conservative news outlet, is the one who really broke the story about shadow banning, ...