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Voice. they didn't know who they could go to, who would listen. so, industry organizations, close to 40 of them, have come together to put together a cross industry initiative, which is guidance and principles. the idea behind it is to prevent things going wrong in the workplace. so, you know, people should know, you know, to treat people with respect. it's all about recognizing differences. but if something does go wrong, that they know who to talk to. >> do you think these guidelines, these principles, would they have stopped the likes of harvey weinstein? >> i think they would have given so...

Point of view. but also in terms of protecting women and making sure that these women, and all women and men, feel comfortable where they're working and feel comfortable to speak up when something does go wrong, when something is inappropriate. that's what we're not hearing about. we hear about all these new programs, hr people. there is something about how are we changing the culture where this -- we can just prevent this from happening in the first place? >> and create true equality in workplaces. by the way, tamara holder a few minutes ago, talking about the need to hire these women back. s...

Nearly asseight years ago. steven bishop joins us now. thank you so much for being here. obviously you have lived through this heartbreak yourself. what has it been like to watch this spat play out between sergeant johnson's family and the president? >> i kind of find it unbelievable that this is even happening to another gold star family. >> what do you wish would happen? where did this fall apart? where did this go wrong in your mind? >> in my mind, and just going back from, you know, my experience when i met with president obama, there's a way to address the families. and, you know, in my o...

>> mm-hmm. >> we will be watching. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you, rachel. the senate is making one more last-minute attempt to repeal and replace obamacare. senator chris van hollen will join us with the latest on that. but first, the most uninformed, inexperienced president in history went to the united nations today and just about everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. >> that was the most atrocious speech i've ever heard an american president give. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> it is in nobody's interest to try to out-kim jong un ki...

>> thank you, rachel. the senate is making one more last-minute attempt to repeal and replace obamacare. senator chris van hollen will join us with the latest on that. but first, the most uninformed, inexperienced president in history went to the united nations today and just about everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. >> that was the most atrocious speech i've ever heard an american president give. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> it is in nobody's interest to try to out-kim jong un kim jong un. >> the united states has great strength and pati...