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Very different when it comes to counting the vote.— very different when it comes to counting the vote. you don't have any elected _ counting the vote. you don't have any elected person _ counting the vote. you don't have any elected person anywhere - counting the vote. you don't have| any elected person anywhere near reading _ any elected person anywhere near reading the voting procedures at all. reading the voting procedures at all it— reading the voting procedures at all it is— reading the voting procedures at all. it is all done by a non—elected people _ all. it is all done by a non...

Insurrection. now that gob smacking piece of reporting in "the washington post" today that the committee receiving trump white house records that were ripped up and had to be taped back together with scotch tape. we're back with mike, jackie, david, and joyce. jackie, tell us about your reporting. >> what initially seemed like an odd and bizarre habit from the former president first reported in 2018 continued well into 2020 and even into the potentially 2021 according to our new reporting that the former president and potentially some of the people around him, were illegally shredding and ripp...

Seen, should he recuse himself? >> so, first, the content is gob smacking. it's not -- it's like the craziest, looniest ravings of a proud boy. she calls it an obvious fraud. she's obviously intensely partisan and deluded. now, should he recuse himself? first, let me tell you the law. there isn't any law. it will be up to him, and he probably will hold firm. but this is really, i think, as one professor called it, a game changer for a couple reasons. the first is, her email here to meadows, who's the quarterback, by the way, it's just by chance that these 29 were turned over. it's not even all...

Of them expected that donald would come in and try to rescue republican congress people who were under as much threat as the democrats. so i really hope we get some of these people testifying in front of the committee because the information we're getting now is gob smacking. i mean, i know we shouldn't be surprised at the breathtaking cynicism of people like laura ingram, but still there's so much more information we don't know and my guess is it's infinitely more damning than we've already heard. >> presumably your uncle donald is hearing about these texts for the very first time tonight als...

Theory about wireless thermostats manipulating georgia voting machines. sarah, what's your reaction to these allegations and how can the republican party keep this man as its standard bearer? >> well, they shouldn't, they should have gotten rid of him a long time ago. the real problem is there was a new poll showing that 44% of republicans still want donald trump to be the president and run again in 2024. and that's why it's so difficult to get rid of him. but it is gob-smacking. we knew all of this. we know that he thinks january 6 was no big deal. recently he came out and he said that the re...