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That he cares about the country. now, this guy's an outsider. and it's not going to be funny if he's seen as making jokes like one he made on television about being more comfortable in apartheid south africa than american police if he's seen as kind of attacking this country from the outside. and by the way comedy central and trevor noah have handled this horribly. they're putting out these terse defensive statements. if trevor noah wants to show he's worthy of this job and it is a pretty important cultural job these days, you have to do a big-time tv interview, take on these questions and he ...

That he cares about the country. now, this guy's an outsider. and it's not going to be funny if he's seen as making jokes like one he made on television about being more comfortable in apartheid south africa than american police if he's seen as kind of attacking this country from the outside. and by the way comedy central and trevor noah have handled this horribly. they're putting out these terse defensive statements. if trevor noah wants to show he's worthy of this job and it is a pretty important cultural job these days, you have to do a big-time tv interview, take on these questions and he ...

Someone told me there was a cult and anything is possible. >> i was convinced we were going to save the world. >> it w transcendent experience. >> you feel euphoric. >> that's what you do inside scientology. >> that was part of the trailer from the new hbo documentary "going clear." raising new questions about the multibillion dollar church. mark and arthur are back with us. mark, should this organization be tax-exempt? >> let's start off with, if what you believe is true, if you believe that that video depicts what really goes on in there, mental and physical abuse, crimes -- >> which sciento...

Explanation other than faith. >> mike rinder is a former signtologist who spent years defending scientology. he's featured in the hbo documentary film "going clear." it will debut march 29th on hbo. mark, thank you very much for being here. and so it's interesting the prison of belief based on a book by a pulitzer prize winning author featured in the documentary as well shot by an academy award winner. and already the church of scientology has come out swinging against you, which we'll get to in a moment. what does that mean the prison of belief? >> it means megyn, that scientology has means o...

Experience. >> everything depends on what you do within scientology. >> they sell it all in the beginning as something quite logical. you take on a matrix of thought that is not your own. >> so strong that it sticks you like glue. >> were very suggestible. >> you just don't see it happening to you. you justify so much. >> there is no logical explanation other than faith. >> mike rinder is a former signtologist who spent years defending scientology. he's featured in the hbo documentary film "going clear." it will debut march 29th on hbo. mark, thank you very much for being here. and so it's int...