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And doing so indiscriminately. we are living with the consequences of this all to regulatory now in europe. >> trace: and robin, very quickly, you look at the social media sites. the isis propaganda sites talking about getting a truck, do it in your own country, kill as many as you can, get out and start stabbing. it seems like to me, wow, how do you defend against that? >> so hard. no publicly disclosed where european security agencies have been able to stop one of these vehicular style attacks. that's because it's very easy to acquire vehicles knives,o machetes, and these know that they can ...

>> the first thing we accomplish is to inform the american public what terrorism looks like. what does jihadists would be staying. we need the allies, this is the largest, not just a law enforcement who are overwhelmed by everything. that's why national leaders need to explain. they are at the editors. they need to be very precise to the public. number two, we have specific communities that can help us a lot. coming from the middle east, north africa, they are the allies. if you do not tell them that this is jihadists terrorism, they would not think that it is and be able to help us. >> trace:...

Qatari are going to help us, but the alcohol if you will of radical islam or islamism, and those societies, those islamic republics of iran, the brother of egypt. pakistan, although if these huge global movements are often nonviolent, but they are the precursors by telling muslims that we should reject western ideas and freedom, free speech, all of these things. so therefore we need muscularel liberalism. many movements not only against the symptoms, but for the ideas that we believe in the west that muslims came to be able to celebrate in order to finally have a long-term strategy against the...

>> trace: so it goes back to you. goes back to you because the point that i am seeing is the cia says there is an attack coming in las ramblas, no date, but an attack coming. it does the cia say? here's what you should do. >> no, and to this is not an assessment or an analysis. there is an attack coming on la rambla. they are saying there is a potential for, please be advised. there is the chance of. so we want to be clear that they were not advising the spanish authorities that you are goingg to have an attack right here in some point in the near future. as far as what they advise, no,i becau...

Assessments and analysis. and a somewhat general warnings on a fairly regular basis. so the fact that they specifically cite las ramblas which is a very heavy tourist area which is similar to nice, westminster bridge in london, does not mean there are specific operational leads or intelligence i would say, okay, now you have a name to go on. a date or a methodology to go on. to be fair, you know, a number of government acted on the various warnings. it was not just citing nice, the british intelligence, they had been warning or advising britisj travelers of the potential for the attack in spai...