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Something that's going to stop the military from supporting mubarak? something where they actually can't survive as an urban society? are those walls coming up on this situation or not? >> reporter: you could have a large demonstration, and it could be very boisterous and lots of cheering. if it's peaceful and no one intervenes, not the police, not the army, not the goon squads, then perhaps if the government decides to take that approach, then we can wait it out. there are economic problems here. there's limits on money you can take out of the banks. most of the atms in cairo are out of cash....

Center of cairo, people are deeply disturbed by this. and that may be the point, getting back to what i said initially. there is a degree of orchestration here. it may look chaotic, but there was a protest here this morning. after the protest, they were attacked by mobs of pro-government supporters. goon squads. the goon squads moved in and created a situation where there is now pandemonium. this is the kind of pandemonium that clarifies egyptians. president mubarak is looking for a reason to crack down, to bring calm to a terrified citizenry. >> richard, explain where these goon squads are co...

That is one side strategy in this. that is the government strategy for staying in power. what's the other side strategy against that? how can the anti-government people, the opposition forces? how can they resist and survive that strategy and still try to win? here's how our own richard engel explained that last night, while overlooking a full-on street battle in cairo. >> reporter: they want everyone to be painted with a negative brush, that everyone involved here are people who want chaos and dissension and that the president would then need to step in as a good leader. of the goon squads. >...

Getting back to what i said initially. there is a degree of orchestration here. it may look chaotic, but there was a protest here this morning. after the protest, they were attacked by mobs of pro-government supporters. goon squads. the goon squads moved in and created a situation where there is now pandemonium. this is the kind of pandemonium that clarifies egyptians. president mubarak is looking for a reason to crack down, to bring calm to a terrified citizenry. >> richard, explain where these goon squads are coming from. are they paid hitmen? are they paid to protect mubarak? describe what ...

We begin this morning with a dramatic turn of events. just when it seemed the situation if egypt had calmed, yesterday there was a sudden and deadly outbreak of violence in cairo as antigovernment protesters came under attack. the egyptian government confirmed on state tv the overnight clashes left five people dead and 836 people wounded. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel filed this report late last night from cairo. >> reporter: egypt ordered a crackdown against antigovernment demonstrators but not with troops, tanks or uniformed police. instead, it sent in goon squads disgui...