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There was real heartache in these people's lives and you really felt for them. >> i've got aids. >> television at its best is a mirror of society in the moment. >> "st. elsewhere" challenged people and challenged you as an actor, much less the audience to to think. the stuff they gave you was extreme in what they did. whether they were dealing with aids or having one of their main doctor characters raped in a prison. >> they tackled lots of difficult subjects. >> "st. elsewhere" was run by people trying to stretch the medium and in the '80s, television producers were encouraged to stretch the ...

Person and he's currently a nba owner. that's a problem. the nba wants to separate. >> i wouldn't put him in the league with certainly with those but i understand. >> i wouldn't either but the fact that he's on tv making this statement, now being singled out as the worst person in the world and obviously not the worst person in the world but he's the poster child for it and not an association the nba can stand for anymore. that's very telling the fact he's being singled out and the other places that have nothing to do with sports. they need to get him disassociated with the league. >> yeah. an...

And obviously not the worst person in the world but he's the poster child for it and not an association the nba can stand for anymore. that's very telling the fact he's being singled out and the other places that have nothing to do with sports. they need to get him disassociated with the league. >> yeah. and i get your reference. you also, sunny, heard adam silver reference some of what sterling said to me about magic johnson. i just want to play a bit of that. >> big magic johnson, what has he done? >> he's a business person. he -- >> he's got aids. did he do any business? i'd like -- did he ...

Things. it canninged the conversation and it otherwise confirmed what he said in a racist way privately. so therefore -- >> do you want to hear those comments again? because i got 'em ready. >> absolutely. >> just in case anyone's wondering if in the conduct of official business, going on television as a team owner, considered being, he might have said anything that disparages the league. let's go to the tape. i feel like a sportscaster. >> that's one problem i have. jews, when they get successful, they will help their people. and some of the african-americans -- maybe i'll get in trouble agai...