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Examples, kim, where is growth occurring where you're seeing it. the jobless rate, for example, in illinois the last time i checked was 8.8%. >> yes. >> paul: and meanwhile, wisconsin 6.9%, very interesting contrast. >> look at indiana, where it's also low, and-- yeah, north dakota, which by the way, steve mentioned you know, the fracking boom going up there. and i think it's below 5%, it's astonishing. >> paul: it's 3%. >> yes. >> paul: so, what about, steve, where do you think this is going? i mean, we've got, you know, the states are supposed to be laboratories are democracy and we're going...

Examples, kim, where is growth occurring where you're seeing it. the jobless rate, for example, in illinois the last time i checked was 8.8%. >> yes. >> paul: and meanwhile, wisconsin 6.9%, very interesting contrast. >> look at indiana, where it's also low, and-- yeah, north dakota, which by the way, steve mentioned you know, the fracking boom going up there. and i think it's below 5%, it's astonishing. >> paul: it's 3%. >> yes. >> paul: so, what about, steve, where do you think this is going? i mean, we've got, you know, the states are supposed to be laboratories are democracy and we're going...