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>> if she did. steve: top u.s. intel chiefs up on capitol hill day before congress certifies the election for donald trump before the election and electoral college. they came in, absolutely russia did hack in. they were trying to influence our election. what do you make of the fact that it seems like the intel community has become more political over the last couple of weeks, couple of months? >> that's for sure. nobody hacked into anything. something out there convinced john podesta's assistant to give up his email password. mayhem inside. we got a lot of information we wouldn't have otherwi...

Brian: bothers him clearly by one of his tweets nbc got information. >> before he did. that is the whole problem here. people have been leaking to the media. cia officials were invited to a house intelligence committee, closed-door meeting a few weeks ago and didn't go. some of them are leaking to the media instead. let's be fair, president obama himself received the final report yesterday or this week. he did the punishment before he got the report. he expelled 35 or so russian operatives last week. he told vladmir putin this summer, knock it off. when i tell my kids arguing in the minivan. w...

I know them, and they do good work. the nature of intelligence is muddy and not always clear what things mean. the nature is always deception. you will not not get entirely straightforward non-politics answer. i'm not casting aspersions. let's be real. that we have to sit back and accept subjective community our intelligence community reaches is insane. no one would ask the public to do that. where were the people before 9/11, you know what, intel community suspects there are weapons of mass destruction in iraq. be quiet and accept that. i think we have right and obligation to say that is exac...

To connect with the people. brian: see him doing this in the white house too. >> if he is allowed, why not? ainsley: they love it. they can go on twitter -- >> when rest of us do, ainsley. democratization of presidential information and we should be happy in that regard. you don't have to be some fat cat donor or some, well-compensated, properly compensated anchor on a major cable network to get the information. we all get it at same time. that is democracy. ainsley: i want to may play you this clip or we want to play you this clip on bill o'reilly's show last night. two gentlemen, both activi...

Obama was presented? who gave them this report and why? politics exclamation point. what is your reaction? >> by the way in. bc leaked the "access hollywood" tape to the "washington post" rather than run it self. no one followed up on the story. i'm for all information coming out so i can assess candidates based on facts. that is factual, fine with me. that is true. they looked that to "the washington post." ainsley: why would they do that? >> why didn't they run it themselves? clearly because they had a political -- steve: they don't like trump. >> obviously. no one else in the press. ainsley...