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It's something else. he was pending placement. he was upset. he was scared. you know, so what does he do? he goes off and starts tearing up my room and everything else to get the attention, but when it's all said and done, ultimately, can i talk to my mom? [ phone ringing ] >> we'll try tomorrow, kevin. all right? we'll try tomorrow. listen, don't get all worked up. we'll keep trying. all right? you going to be all right? >> i don't know. i just want to talk to my momma. >> i know you do, kevin. >> my mom, she did come to visit me one time. she promised me she was going to visit me almost ever...

>> nbc. >> nbc. and you're? >> chris hansen. >> let me explain something to nbc for a moment here. i don't know what kind of rap y'all got on people, but maybe you ought to get the whole story. because this girl is in a role-playing chat room. and if she wants to play like she's 14, hey, a whatever. but on the phone, girl told me something different. >> really? >> so, i mean -- >> and you expect me to believe that why? >> you don't got to believe it. you don't got to. i'm not trying to convince you or these cameramen or anybody else. >> who are you trying to convince? >> nobody. >> yourself? >...

A lot of people forget we've got inmates out there that love them. they've got people out there that love them. a lot of us start at a young age. we know we did dirt. we know we did dirt. we know we [ bleep ] up. there are people that love them, trying to get back out there to them. we ain't all animals. we may be in cages, but we ain't animals. act like civilized human beings. they put us in cages like animals. product of our own environment. do you believe this [ bleep ]? you ain't got to. come live in [ bleep ] and find out. >> jesse kozlowski has been at florida's santa rosa correctional i...

A lot of people forget we've got inmates out there that love them. they've got people out there that love them. a lot of us start at a young age. we know we did dirt. we know we did dirt. we know we [ bleep ] up. got people that love them, trying to get back out there to them. we ain't all animals. we may be in cages, but we ain't animals. act like civilized human beings. they put us in cages like animals. product of our own environment. do you believe this [ bleep ]? you ain't got to. come live in [ bleep ] and find out. >> jesse kozlowski has been at florida's santa rosa correctional institu...

A lot of people forget we've got inmates out there that love them. they've got people out there that love them. a lot of us start at a young age. we know we did dirt. we know we did dirt. we know we [ bleep ] up. there are people that love them, trying to get back out there to them. we ain't all animals. we may be in cages, but we ain't animals. act like civilized human beings. they put us in cages like animals. product of our own environment. do you believe this [ bleep ]? you ain't got to. come live in [ bleep ] and find out. >> jesse kozlowski has been at florida's santa rosa correctional i...