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Tax cuts for the wealthy expiring but things of his own, the buffet rule, dividends, things like that saying i'm going to do that. >> do you buy the nate silver theory he is consciously saying okay. i'll lose upper income people but get a lot more regular people in that tradeoff? >> absolutely. >> that seems to be what he's up to. >> when you take rhetoric and you put it in your budget, even though it's kind of a political document, it is still a governing document, the intention of a president for the entire country to see. that is an important signal that i think the president is sending. >>...

Taxes since 1948 since harry truman. the president believes not only is that good policy but importantly and i think it's kind of a rubicon he has crossed politically that he can talk to the country aggressively about raising taxes, not just the bush tax cuts for the wealthy expiring but things of his own, the buffet rule, dividends, things like that saying i'm going to do that. >> do you buy the nate silver theory he is consciously saying okay. i'll lose upper income people but get a lot more regular people in that tradeoff? >> absolutely. i believe you translate, when you take rhetoric and y...

Fairness is an issue that i think is felt in people's hearts and minds. that was the central argument. somehow mobility has been hurt in this country. and the idea that brought immigrants to the shore, if you worked hard you could have a decent life and move up, people sense that that has been lost, and he said that's what he is going to fight for, fairness, because the system is rigged against ordinary people. >> joe, you talk about this all the time on "morning joe," the problems are so monumental, the politics seem small. is it a fair knock to say the american people are going to have to do...

>> no, i think that's fair. and you know what's interesting, i think it was a clever political speech which hit all the right notes, boosting manufacturing, speaks to blue collar workers, immigration reform, comprehensive immigration reform speaks to hispanics, trying to deal with the dysfunction in washington obviously appealing to independents, and as you say, the big idea about trying to make the tax code fairer, trying to help the sidle class and make, as he said, the wealthy pay their fair share. the interesting thing, though, i think it was more a political speech, more involved with hel...

To the ground on sort of the establishment is this shut that romney is using on temperament, managerial style that somehow newt gingrich doesn't have the temperament or managerial skills to be president. what do you say to that? >> well, i say they need to look at the record. as dick cheney just pointed out, newt gingrich spent tent years helping get us to the majority. he remained focused on what was necessary to get there. we started with a program in 1984, building the contract with america in 1994. the contract with america was not only a political document it was a governing document that...