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>> the pressure on the republicans to come together as a party and demonstrate they're able to govern and pass major legislation under pressure from the president and from their congress is enormous. the pressure on every single saerpt to pass this bill is going to be enormous. the point is because there have been so many successive bills, it's been very difficult for americans to keep track of what are in these bills, whether or not they should support it or not. the citizen engagement on this one may not be quite as high as it's been in the others. i think we've seen over the last summer of ...

Please, it's nothing. you weren't here in '68. you have no idea what it was like between '68 and '74 in that country. that period, just as polarizing, just as divide. yes, both parties from fractured at that point. you had wars. >> they were fractured. >> why is -- yeah. >> but congress functioned. the system functioned. yes they were acrimonious, and yes there were high feelings. but the thing about it is the legislative process worked. the governing process worked. right now you look at what is happening, and it's just barely working, if it's working at all. and in the '60s and '70s was work...

Process, interfere with our governing process as well and then elevate russia's stature in the world so we perceive russia to be on same stage as the united states. >> he believes that they set president trump's team up for failure. he focused on the meeting between donald trump jr., paul manafort, jared kushner and five others. >> russian would not send all of those people together to a meeting. it was as if putin was channelling the brothers grim and leaving bread crumbs ala hansel and gretel back to the kremlin >> you think they wanted us to find out about the meeting? >> absolutely did. >>...

Ultimately interfere with our governing process, drive a wedge among different elements of our government. >> and trump jr. wasn't the first member of the president's team to be targeted by moscow. >> one of the biggest challenges is the misperceptions. >> carter page has always believed that americans should be more friendly towards russia. >> it's a basic simple principle. if you treat someone with respect and you have a constructive positive approach, then people will reciprocate has. >> why are you so sympathetic towards russia. it seems like you're feeling that the kremlin is misunderstoo...

Focused on this issue that would ultimately interfere with our governing process, drive a wedge among different elements of our government. >> and trump jr. wasn't the first member of the president's team to be targeted by moscow. >> one of the biggest challenges is the misperceptions. >> carter page has always believed that americans should be more friendly towards russia. >> it's a basic simple principle. if you treat someone with respect and you have a constructive positive approach, then people will reciprocate has. >> why are you so sympathetic towards russia. it seems like you're feeling...