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It seems to make logical sense. the trouble is, that over time, research has shown that for a lot of low risk offenders that's not the case. violent and career criminals for sure. they should go to prison, stay there for a long time. that what we have prisons for. a lot of lower level nonviolent offenders were swept up in this big net. so we are at the point where we have nearly one in 100 adult behind bars. one in 31 are on some form of community corrections super vision that is in prison, jail, probation or parole. one in eight state employees works in corrects and the corrections budget has...

The government. it belongs to individuals and to steal money from individuals, though whatever government spending program is taking, it is taking private property and you're not supposed to do that." if you, as the government, steal money from individuals to use it on a government spending program. >> yeah. i think a lot of christians would not recognize the bible as david barton promotes it. those things you quoted, taxation is theft, so it violates the ten commandments, and he misuses teachings of jesus to say that the bible is opposed to progressive taxation, the capital gains tax, minimum...

Is taking private property and you're not supposed to do that." if you, as the government, steal money from individuals to use it on a government spending program. >> yeah. i think a lot of christians would not recognize the bible as david barton promotes it. those things you quoted, taxation is theft, so it violates the ten commandments, and he misuses teachings of jesus to say that the bible is opposed to progressive taxation, the capital gains tax, minimum wages, and even collective bargaining rights for unions, which comes in handy right about now. >> now, this is where you start to realiz...

Steal money from individuals, though whatever government spending program is taking, it is taking private property and you're not supposed to do that." if you, as the government, steal money from individuals to use it on a government spending program. >> yeah. i think a lot of christians would not recognize the bible as david barton promotes it. those things you quoted, taxation is theft, so it violates the ten commandments, and he misuses teachings of jesus to say that the bible is opposed to progressive taxation, the capital gains tax, minimum wages, and even collective bargaining rights for...

Every issue a religious issue and claiming that god has one particular position and barton will tell you that bible mandates the far right position on everything, not just abortion and gays, but immigration and economic policies, he then says if you are wrong -- if you disagree with him, you're not just wrong on the issues, but you're anti-god. you mentioned that in the point we made in our report for the people for american way. we believe that's dangerous and bad for democracy, but if europe independents are evil, it makes it a lot harder to have a real conversation about policy and to reach...