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Forward? >> lots of subpoenas. you know, when the grand jury was impaneled, particularly on this russian probe a few weeks back, that's when i said, oh, this thing is really going to start moving now because when you have a grand jury particularly focused on a case, on a group of people, on a certain what they believe is a criminal conspiracy maybe to obstruct or launder money or tax evasion, that thing really has the power now of the courts, the subpoena power, the power to issue target letters, subpoena witnesses, grab documents. of course they can always get search warrants like they did. a...

The power now of the courts, the subpoena power, the power to issue target letters, subpoena witnesses, grab documents. of course they can always get search warrants like they did. and no doubt director mueller -- and you know i've just been acquainted with him, and we were both in the federal service, and i have the highest regard for him. he is a top guy, honest man. he's going to do the right thing all the time. he'll bring in the financial irs investigators. nobody's better than them on the money. if there's any money shenanigans, those guys will dig it out. >> before we break, john heilem...