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Office. >> politicians have been doing this for years. >> jay carney also tried to put a little daylight between the white house and organizing for america, which is not the way it was conceived originally. yesterday he tried to say there was some separation there and there was no direct link, but it was supposed to be a place where policy was developed and the message was delivered to the white house. >> history of the obama operation is if they have the financial advantage, they take advantage of it. >> regardless. >> regardless. one of the things about this group, besides the question of ac...

On the issues that motivated them to get involved with barack obama in the first place. you talked about them, the economy. immigration reform, climate change. all things that we care very deeply about and so as we looked at how to do that, the structure made the most sense. it allows us to coordinate with the white house and continues to run a grassroots operation that takes the fight out of washington and says to people, look, get involved and these are incredibly important issues of our time and let's tackle them. >> jim, you didn't know this. the new nbc, wall street journal poll, the pres...

>> it's 45,000 ads so far. there are eight groups right now in the state together running -- eight individual groups running ads. the only way you fight that is grassroots, and we've got a great grassroots operation. sherrodbrown.com, people can join us. we've got lots of people that have done everything from small contributions to knocking on doors and doing phone banks, and that's how you beat this kind of money. it's the only way a progressive populist democrat in a state like ohio wins. >> there's some things i keep worrying about. ohio is one i worry about. i wonder about the secretary of...

The only way you fight that is grassroots, and we've got a great grassroots operation. sherrodbrown.com, people can join us. we've got lots of people that have done everything from small contributions to knocking on doors and doing phone banks, and that's how you beat this kind of money. it's the only way a progressive populist democrat in a state as tough as ohio wins. you fight back that way. >> there's some things i keep worrying about. ohio is one i worry about. i wonder about the secretary of state out there. i wonder about the stumble we had last time, the people kept questioning -- i'm ...

And wall street money. >> is this americans for prosperity, the koch brothers? >> it's all different groups. it's not a super pac, it's not disclosed money. it's directed by karl rove. he's directing the choir and this group comes in -- >> crossroads gps. i know it well. >> it's 45,000 ads so far. there are eight groups right now in the state together running -- eight individual groups running ads. the only way you fight that is grassroots, and we've got a great grassroots operation. sherrodbrown.com, people can join us. we've got lots of people that have done everything from small contributio...