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With don regan, especially if you ask nancy reagan back at the time. you have written a story tonight about the koch brothers. it was really extraordinary to read criticism of the koch brothers by the president this morning. the headline is trump feud with koch network exposes rift between populist forces and establishment gop. you're a broadcaster yourself. give us the viewers guide to this fight. >> the koch brothers have long been a power in republican politics. they gathered in colorado over the weekend. david koch has since retired from that famous koch brothers political partnership, bus...

Our lawyers will contact them to ensure that if there are any moves in the legal area, if they actually do request a recount, and it's not clear that they're going to, but if they do, we don't want to be in each other's way. i cannot speak for the clinton campaign. i can speak for my campaign. what i said consistently throughout the campaign is if there were questions raised about the reliability or the accuracy or the security of the vote, then i would stand up and file that challenge, no matter who the winner was. to me, this is not about overturning the results of the election. it's not abo...

It makes me wonder, from your perspective, you've been on the inside. just recently now on the outside, who are you most impressed with? >> well, i mean, if you look at what's really happening out there, i mean, all you've got to do is compare the size of everyone's rallies. and that's really a demonstration of grass-roots support, right? donald trump is having 10,000, 12,000 people show up at rallies. a lot of these guys are having five or six people show up at their events in iowa. there's just not a comparison. you know, the establishment can fret about it all they want, but this is the new...

There in the impact with him. and so we are very pleased that bernie sanders who is new to politic, and the first time running for president, and he is moving into the high teens and 20s and in california he is 35 at the biggest state in the country. >> and tad, it is important for hillary clinton to maintain the enormous lead for the democratic nomination, despite she is under attack from 18 republican presidential candidates and of course, the entire republican congress going after her, i think that it speaks to her strength of character and the standing and incredible grass roots support, a...

For their faith. and it's also sad and cynical the president's response and hillary clinton's response is to immediately try to politicize this not to go after violent criminals but instead to try to go after the second amendment rights of law-abiding citizens. i think that's wrong. bill: we'll see if this visit involves poll techs or not friday. you are trying to move in the polls and it hasn't happened yet. are you satisfied with the state of your campaign? >> i'm incredibly ended. the momentum we are seeing on ought ground. we rolled out county chairmen in the first four primary states. no ...