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Moving forward? we're seeing both american values and religious values trampled on. we're having candidates and other politicians who are giving god a bad name and who are turning their back on the constitution of the united states. the ramifications of all of that are much broader and much more serious than you and i can describe in the time we have tonight. >> welton, when you -- you obviously feel like this is sort of grave damage, that this is something that's very hard to come back from. we've seen people go as far as they can. we've seen people push this particular envelope before. but t...

We're seeing both american values and religious values trampled on. we're having candidates and other politicians who are giving god a bad name and who are turning their back on the constitution of the united states. the ramifications of all of that are much broader and much more serious than you and i can describe in the time we have tonight. >> welton, when you -- you obviously feel like this is sort of grave damage, that this is something that's very hard to come back from. we've seen people go as far as they can. we've seen people push this particular envelope before. but there's always be...

Trust. the damage these revelations incur are huge. >> can i infer there has been a referral to track down the leak? >> absolutely. nsa has filed a report on this already. >> clapper said the leak had already damaged u.s. intelligence capabilities. >> for me, it is literally, not figuratively, literally gut wrenching to see this happen. because of the huge grave damage it does to our intelligence capabilities. our adversaries, whether nation state adversaries or nefarious groups, benefit from that same transparency, so as we speak, they're going to school and learning how we do this. >> clappe...

Masters of -- for last 20 years. several things going against them of their use of any substantial military force. have to remember their primary rejective is regime survival. they have no interest of using any of these armaments because they will lose. there is no doubt in my mind that they can take and invade the south, probably do so very rapidly. go uninto seoul, do grave damage. sustain probably about 30 days worth of real military activities. they would lose in the end. plus, they are not quite state of the chinese. clearly the chinese have no interest in the south koreans losing and the...

You know one of the big stories of the fall was an internet site putting out this raw, unsubstantiated stuff on trump that said horrible things about him and some alleged russian transgressions. so it's not that way anymore. maybe your newspaper does it, and maybe the fox news channel does it, but the internet doesn't do it. and that is where these leaks are going. >> okay, and that is wikileaks, and that is in a different category. i agree with you, that is a real serious problem, and that should be the focus of attention int investigating. let me ask you. have you ever received, bill, inform...