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Destabilize everything. don't do that at this point. the russians are more than happy to have us be pulling back. they've increased their presence in the middle east in the last two years. the more we pull back, the more they feel they have a free hand. but remember what president trump is doing is what he has said he would do and in a lot of ways, a lot of the american people are -- kind of want him to do. they don't particularly want to be part of these middle east ventures, even if there are consequences to the national security to pull out like this. >> there's some pushback on capitol hil...

The number one interest is, in my view, containing iran. we have the sanctions on iran coming due on november 4th. we need the saudis to help us substitute their oil for iranian oil around the globe. there are massive interests involved here, and to rush on the basis of this horrible event, and i don't mean to suggest it isn't horrible, and destabilize saudi arabia or imperil our relations with them, i think would be a mistake. >> max, what about that? devil's bargains are made all the time in the world of real politics around the world. is this one of those cases where the larger interests of...

We have the sanctions on iran coming due on november 4th. we need the saudis to help us substitute their oil for iranian oil around the globe. there are massive interests involved here, and to rush on the basis of this horrible event, and i don't mean to suggest it isn't horrible, and destabilize saudi arabia or imperil our relations with them, i think would be a mistake. >> max, what about that? devil's bargains are made all the time in the world of real politics around the world. is this a case where the larger interests of our country and saudi arabia mandate turning a blind eye to this? >>...

Democrats has gone up to 57%. that was now a six-point spread. it's a six-point spread now when it comes to people being angry. and the president has come up as well drawing may of the anchor of americans. if it is in fact now a battle for the hearts and minds, the democrats don't seem to be doing so well. have you made a grave error by digging in? >> ashleigh, we're not digging in. and what i would ask the american people to do is continue to follow this conversation very closely. you played a clip of the speaker saying he just wanted to talk. but on sunday, on abc, he told the country that h...