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The former major of new york is actively wondering if his gravestone would read, rudy guiliani, he lied for trump. and he cleared that up and said, no, no, i'm not lying. so much twisting for something that the president said he had no concern about. listen to this. >> there would be nothing wrong if i did. i was running my business while i was campaigning. there was a good chance i wouldn't have won, in which case i would have gotten back into the business. >> it was all cohen but cohen said he was updating the kids and we know the president signed the letter of intent, i showed it to you. he...

A question that's been echoed over the past 48 hours, what is rudy giuliani up to? is the president's lawyer in cleanup mode or is he intentionally trying to create all kinds of confusion? among the bizarre new comments, what giuliani fears could end up on his grave stone? also, quote, this is the worst bleeping job i've ever had. that's just one of several anecdotes in his new book who describes an absolutely out of control staff inside the trump white house. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. (mom vo) it's easy to shrink into your own little world. especially these days. (dad) i thin...

Confused, what's he doing? he understands the situation and he doesn't seem to really care. >> okay. okay. on the terra firma note, you've obviously seen this back and forth he had with "the new yorker" and there was this one fascinating piece of it where they asked rudy giuliani whether he's worried about saying things for trump and the facts that he might, quote, not always be truthful about it and he said, quote, i'm afraid it will be on my gravestone and he clarified this when he talked to you. what did he mean by that? >> he was joking about that, but what has come from that are questions...

It's really astounding. >> you mentioned the grave site -- >> its irwin corey. >> you're pre-dating me. i was born in the '70s. "the new yorker" interview, you mentioned the gravestone. rudy giuliani was asked about his legacy, he tells cnn that he was joking, the clarification since this came out that he was joking where his gravestone might read, he lied for trump. he's making sure the president is on terra firma legally and trying to understand the political waters. do you think his comments are more for congress or the republicans? >> brooke, it doesn't make a difference. the fact of the m...

York through 9/11. the big picture for me is that he talked yesterday in the new yorker about whether this would be on his gravestone. in a very rudy-esque phrase, he said, maybe st. peter will forgive me. i hope his career speaks to his totali totality, because he cut crime in half before leaving the city after 9/11 and donald trump would have auditioned to be on "hollywood squares," recovering from his bankruptcies and turning around to be a rallying tv star. it's the same person but not the same level of discipline. and the statesmanship i saw working with him closely. it does obscure his l...