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It's a real gun, okay? >> reporter: and he had them role-play one more time. >> see that gun and show me exactly what you would do. >> reporter: now we're going to test them again at sean's house, the same place they had their last training. they might be on alert since the setting is familiar, but will that help them remember what to do? we've got hidden cameras rolling upstairs and their nervous moms downstairs. >> so you had a training again with dr. ray, and how did the boys do then? >> they, they did really well. he emphasized a little bit more. you know. to take it one step farther. >> t...

While he was in the police academy he had a gun in the house for a full year. >> reporter: did your kids know where the gun was? >> no. >> reporter: she's sure nine-year-old nevada will know exactly what to do. she's sort of the rule follower kind of kid? >> absolutely. >> reporter: but she's not so sure about 7-year-old luke. >> he's the middle child. he's very outgoing. he's kind of the ham of the family. >> reporter: before we test luke and nevada we send them to a gun safety class with our expert, dr. miltenberger. the kids call him dr. ray. >> first? >> stop and don't touch. >> stop and d...

In trouble. they just need more training and they need the right kind of training. >> stop and don't touch it. turns out dr. ray is not surprised the boys failed. he used a training that is often taught in gun safety classes. you simply tell kids what to do. he used this talk-only method to illustrate what his research found, that type of training doesn't usually work. >> i expected they would probably touch the gun, perhaps play with it and maybe do something dangerous with it. >> reporter: based on his research published in the journal of the american academy of pediatrics, dr. ray says just...

He says it works about 50% of the time. for some kids, the attraction to guns is so strong, that they need to be trained over and over. he says after the role playing, and after you've tested them, you need to train again and test them again. >> kids know their abcs and they know their basic addition and subtraction 'cause they've practiced it over and over. it's the same with this skill. >> like a fire drill at school. >> absolutely. >> kids have to practice it. they have to know the exits. they have to get it under a certain amount of time. >> that's a perfect analogy. >> ooh, a gun. >> repo...

>> oh my gosh. yeah, he just -- >> oh my gosh. >> we laugh because we know it's a situation where we're testing them, but if that were real -- >> yeah. >> hard to see that? >> it was disappointing. those training sessions were so recent. >> reporter: their dads go to speak with their sons. >> what happened when you saw that gun? >> i touched it. >> why? >> i wanted to. >> i love you. i'm glad you're safe. if this was a real gun, it could've been incredibly dangerous, and incredibly scary. okay? >> do you realize what that gun can do? >> it can kill you? >> i love you, buddy. but next time we c...