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And history, but the big question is how much autonomy and power and access to the president will he have? the reason we wonder about that is because other candidates turned down the job because they felt that somehow they would be eclipsed by, say, steve bannon? >> i think this is a great pick, and this is a guy -- the stereotypes of guys that study war, either they are tough and macho guys that want to go in and break things and kill people, or intellectuals in ivory tower thinking of a theory, and he combines the two things, and he is a tough guy, and a smart guy when it comes to count coun...

It's not a done deal yet. but would you support retired marine corps general james mattis as defense secretary, is that a good idea even though he's only been out of active duty for three years? >> yeah, i love mad dog mattis. a great general. the thing about good leaders is what his people say about him, and you see people that have worked for james mattis and they said they would follow this guy into hell because he would do the same for them. that's the kind of leader the defense department needs. there's an advantage to having somebody that was a general in this position, because they know...

And then you have to execute. i think we need to give all these people a chance. it will come to the lowest common denominator. i don't think it will be too far right or too far left. this president will move that aircraft carrier slowly because he's a curator, he's not a steward. you've seen that with carrier and softbank and boeing, some that these people say is he just picking industries or what is he doing? >> what's the worst way to handle donald trump? i'm not saying mitt romney. i don't want to get into conversations. maybe he did actually call you for advice on how to talk to trump. le...

You know, test out skill sets in a different way, but a great pick. >> talk about mitt romney. you having been a former adviser to his campaign. considering the job of secretary of state. not all republicans are onboard with this. listen to what the former governor of arkansas mike huckabee has to say about this. >> he attacked him on a personal level about his character, integrity, his honor. when you do that, only one way i think mitt romney could even be considered for a post like that. he goes to a microphone in a public place and repute yates everything he said in that famous salt lake ci...