Ceo of green path, works with people who are often overwhelmed by credit cards, and she's seeing signs that's coming again. >> people who called us in 2021 on average had about $10,000 in credit card debt. so people on average calling us this month, it's at $14,000. >> that's significant. that's a lot of money. >> yeah, so it's 40% higher than it was last year. like that to me is like, holy cow. >> reporter: kristen says in this financial environment, credit card debt is a compounding problem. today families who struggled before the pandemic may be struggling again. but kristen worries the cre...