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Who said he's, you know, he's... "you'll feel him "in the breeze. "you'll. "u you know. and i remember him playing king lear and holding cordelia, his dead daughter, in his arms and saying, "thou'lt come no more. "never, never, never, never, never." and until he died, i didn't know, really, why shakespeare has lear repeat that word five times. and now i know. because the idea that you will never, never see him again is... ..trying to articulate and understand what that actually means. and i know that, but it's... it's... it's nevertheless... it's painful. it's very... it's very painful. yeah. ...

Warnings that millions of children in england could go hungry this summer because councils have reduced or scrapped free school meal vouchers over the school holidays. now on bbc news, it's time for hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur, and this is the stage of the royal shakespeare theatre in stratford—upon—avon, birthplace of william shakespeare. 400 years and more after his death, his words and stories still resonate around the world, transcending languages and borders. well, my guest today is the just—retired artistic director of the royal shakespeare company, greg doran...

Because the idea that you will never, never see him again is... ..trying to articulate and understand what that actually means. and i know that, but it's... it's... it's nevertheless... it's painful. it's very... it's very painful. yeah. greg doran, thank you so much forjoining me on hardtalk. thank you very much indeed. thank you, stephen. hello there. it's fair to say that rainfall has not been distributed evenly

About william shakespeare? gregory doran, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. nice to be here. well, it's a real pleasure to be on your stage here at the royal shakespeare company. you first set foot on this stage 35 years ago. idid. in fact, this month, it's 50 years since i saw my first show at the rsc, which was eileen atkins in as you like it. and my mum had packed us all into the back of her beige mini and we had come down from preston, and i saw the show and i was just completely blown away. and apparently i said to my mum on the way back, "that's what i want to do when i grow up." so i must...

And now i know — because the idea that you will never, never see him again is... ..trying to articulate and understand what that actually means. and i know that, but it's... it's... it's nevertheless... it's painful. it's very... it's very painful. yeah. greg doran, i thank you so much forjoining me on hardtalk. thank you very much indeed. thank you, stephen.