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What's with the outreach. one telling the national journal anonymously, this is a joke, the official saying it's all for the media. joining us our political panel, weekly standard steve hayes, washington post karen tumlety and byron york. karen your thoughts about the statement from the senior white house person. >> i think, we don't know who this anonymous person is, and i think it's a very good reporter. if he says it's a senior official, it's a senior official. often when somebody makes a comment to a reporter it's because there's been a debate inside the building and the person lost the ar...

This issue was front and center for a little bit during the presidential campaign and it started to get some attention, but what i've said to folks, if we can't get things like this under control, how are we ever going to deal with a 16 trillion dollar debt? >> i don't know, i think probably-- >> it's disheartening. >> greta: i think most people agree we shouldn't be sending phones to dead people. i don't know, we could find a way to fight over that one. thank you. >> appreciate it very much. >> greta: and waste and fraud, have you hit your limit yet? if you list your opinion loud and often. g...

Timetable to submit his proposed budget to the united states congress. >> the president will be putting forward a budget in the next several weeks, probably the week of april 8th. >> it is beyond tardy. >> i've been here a month and a half so interestingly, i honestly have not seen regular order since i've been here. it seems like that we're going from catastrophe to-- and this is really how the president operates. >> greta: and tonight, talk about nerve. the white house slamming congressman paul ryan's budget plan yet the white house hasn't bothered to put out its own budget. the law says tha...

>> we don't know yet. it's true there have been a lot of waivers, but wait and see until next year when most of the last provisions take effect and see whether or not the system works. really, there's so much that's going to ham. there's going to be so much in flux and we have to wait and see. >> greta: does anybody know what's going to happen? >> i don't think they do. i have no idea. >> greta: that's mystifying about this. we have a enormous bill, 20,000 pages of regulations and no nobody knows if it's going to impact or nobody knows the economic impact. >> and we have to remember, that imag...

Expansion that's the federal government or the states in conjunction paying for medicare. >> wait, wait, he sends it to the state and gives greater flexibility. pilot in the state. programs and deliver it sooner. you talk to governors, even democrats, they'll agree with-- >> so when you say eliminate medicaid expansion, but you will give them grants to do it themselves? >> let's not use the word eliminate. because the one thing that the budget does not do -- what ryan does overall is, instead of growing government at 5%, he does it at 3.4. why? because our economy is not growing at 5%. he make...