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>> it's not going to work. >> i'm not trying to argue. >> i'm trying to be decent about this and come right to this. >> i'm ready to go back to my cell, man. >> all right. there's your stuff. he's trying to make things a constitutional issue. it's not a constitutional issue. it's an administrative issue. all he has to do is appeal it through the grievance process. and let a northern regional director make that decision. he's had a lot of conduct reports in the last five years. a lot of conduct reports. let me see. see -- one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight -- eight pages. and he say...

I'm not saying that. did i say anything like that? you're trying to get an argument out of me. >> i'm not trying to argue. >> it's not going to work. >> i'm not trying to argue. >> here it is. i'm trying to be decent about this and come right to this. >> i'm ready to go back to my cell, man. >> all right. there's your stuff. he's trying to make things a constitutional issue. it's not a constitutional issue. it's an administrative issue. all he has to do is appeal it through the grievance process and let a northern regional director make that decision. he's had a lot of conduct reports in the l...

All he has to do is appeal it through the grievance process. and let a northern regional director make that decision. he's had a lot of conduct reports in the last five years. a lot of conduct reports. let me see. see -- one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight -- eight pages. and he says he only had one, two. yeah, okay. he did only have one, two, so far this year. >> nick knox's conduct is about to also come under fire. >> i have a hearing today on fleeing and resistance. >> right now i'm trying to figure out if i'm going to explode or not. and how to present my case. i really didn't d...

Working for the fcc -- >> it's not a bad example -- >> exactly. no, that's exactly right. but the thing of it is you've got to be careful with taking away protections from workers if they want to blow whistles on you know, behavior like this or taking away a grievance process which we don't want to do. this seems to be an isolated incident, let's hope, and if there's a loophole let's close it. >> mike, when you think of silly stuff that's gone on remember the irs employees had the -- that "star trek" video that they did and then there was the gsa had a clown you know this stuff that was sancti...

You're trying to get an argument out of me. >> i'm not trying to argue. >> it's not going to work. >> i'm not trying to argue. >> i'm trying to be decent about this and come right to this. >> i'm ready to go back to my cell, man. >> all right. there's your stuff. he's trying to make things a constitutional issue. it's not a constitutional issue. it's an administrative issue. all he has to do is appeal it through the grievance process. and let a northern regional director make that decision. he's had a lot of conduct reports in the last five years. a lot of conduct reports. let me see. see -- o...