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>> first off, the president articulating 30 years ago and today the bill for defending nato should not be sent to the united states. the nato allies should share their burden is where the american people are. that needs to be communicated clearly to the allies. russia itself has an economy somewhere between that of italy or spain. not italy and spain. but they have a military capable of threatening all of europe. what we need to see from our european counter parts, investment in real capabilities. we have deployed our forces to help counter the aggressiveness of russia along the border. they n...

The kurdish fighters who are courageous but don't have military equipment they need. some are running around not with combat boots but sandals and sneakers will need training and equipment. this is a long-material proposition. >> it absolutely is long-term. the other key will be getting the turks involved. at some point, we have to get their ground forces. they are the second largest army in nato after the united states. they have terrific ground capabilities. they are on that boarder. they have skin in the game. i think that is the other piece that will need to be deployed. >> explain this to...