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The eye rabs and the turks. i would pull the caliphate up by its roots and push assad out. if you don't, this never ends. that means an american ground component inside of syria. if you can destroy isil without doing that, i'm dying to know how. >> the russians are establishing a base. looks like they're establishing a military base in syria. now the administration idea i suppose is to enlist them in the war against isil. are they the enemy or the ally? >> here's what i would say -- >> and what would you do about that? >> number one, assad has to go. obama is going to go before assad. the russ...

Alone will not lead to victory. you've got to have that ground component that flushes the enemy out, and you have to have clear concerted objectives that will lead you to some end state that results in some kind of political settlement so you can have peace. and so air strikes alone aren't going to do it and i think that's part of the syrian effort is to get the -- enough troops on the ground there in syria to pressure isis and syria so they can't without any kind of pressure just focus on iraq and so if we can pressure them in syria, that will loosen up the defenses in iraq a little bit and h...

Has had really its best moderate success with air strikes against isis since they began last summer. when they have been paired with al allied ground troops perhaps the best example peshmerga forces on the ground. they have been pretty successful in isis removing them and dislodging them from territory in syria and when there's just been air strikes and no ground component on the ground battling isis the air strikes have really accomplished little though the u.s. and coalition still continue to launch them. there is a real problem about how they are conducted because they just don't have partn...

Essentially reinvade iraq or invade syria. >> for more former army intelligence officer tony schaefer, a friend of the show. what should we be doing differently regarding isis? >> i agree with john mccain that the current strategy's not focused. there's three things we should do first. we don't have to put combat troops on the ground. we have combat forces available that we could use as our ground component. the peshmerga. we have forces trained and ready to go. i dismissed idea that we need anything other than that. we also have egyptians available. let's use the resources we've trained and a...

President. bashir al assad honors children of dead soldiers and acknowledges setbacks. >> translator: syria is currently waging a war, not just a battle. >> reporter: islamist rebels including some with links to al qaeda and the more moderate pre-syrian army have scored key victories against the assad regime in northern syria in recent days raising the prospect of a change in the war's momentum. it comes as the pentagon is poised to begin a controversial program to train other moderate syrian rebels to fight isis not the rejim in next door turkey and jordan. cnn learned the training on small a...