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>> and i think as helene has reported, clinton was driving this because of what she was hearing from the allies as well. susan rice did a remarkable job at the u.n. no one could have predicted, even critics of the policy, such a muscular resolution being approved and the abstentions from russia and china. this came much quicker than expected. >> you said the notion of a no-fly zone, how did you describe it, should not be the focus. >> no. it wasn't the libyan air force that was causing problems. it was the ground power that gadhafi could bring to bear. so stopping them flying doesn't solve any...

Click on the charity buzz auction to bid on some great items with proceeds going to the people and the wildlife who need it the most. all right, john soltz, where's all this going in afghanistan? >> well, we're not going in the right direction. look, larry, we were on the segment together after the president's initial speech at west point. the time line makes no sense at all. when you want to put all these troops in there. the question is what are our objectives on the ground? we need to have a limited objective which is deny al qaeda the ability to train terrorists to attack our country. what...

All this going in afghanistan? >> well, we're not going in the right direction. look, larry, we were on the segment together after the president's initial speech at west point. the time line makes no sense at all. when you want to put all these troops in there. the question is what are our objectives on the ground? we need to have a limited objective which is deny al qaeda the ability to train terrorists to attack our country. what happens when we put force throughout, you know, any of these countries? it happened in kosovo. they went into macedonia. it happened in iraq. in my unit. we put a l...

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