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And i don't envision that the united states would come back to europe saying ok we need to put ground systems back on the ground here in europe ok ben hodges we thank you so much for your perspective i mean we just scratched the surface really there is so much that is being discussed at that three day conference there in munich but we very much appreciate your analysis especially considering your position as former commander of the u.s. army and your own thank you. today is the last day of the competition at the berlin film festival and down at the berlin allah we have is film experts and scot...

We're not saying that's the situation here. but we have seen with other airlines in the past most recently a polish airline in which their ground systems were hacked. again, not saying that's the situation here but that's the obviously question that everyone has, is what caused this widespread situation. and that answer we do not have at this hour. >> we have heard and now we're seeing the pictures about people getting tickets that are being written by hand. i want to show some pictures of this if we can pull this up. a tweet sent to us by kyung law. and you see people filling out information ...

I'm guessing hundreds of millions by now. >> easily. easily. so why this hasn't been done -- >> because the airline would have to bear the brunt of it, right? >> well, the airlines, but you're also talking ground systems. let's talk about nexgen. >> if you can do it in ten seconds. >> it's being held up in congress and with the faa but with that we have good potential and technology in place to do exactly what you're talking about. >> are you telling me politics might play into this in congress? >> imagine such a thing. >> david soucie, stay right where you are. more questions to follow on tha...

You that you cannot land because the weather's not good. the pilots are really the ones that are in charge. you have to realize what they are flying. he was flying the equivalent of the boeing 727 here. >> there have been six crashes of this model plane in the last five years. how much does the plane factor in to this? >> well, i'd hate to try to speculate as to how much that had to do with it. you have to realize, in this country we take a lot for granted. our systems and our ground systems and our ground controls and some of our instrumentation and everything else are the best in the world, ...