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Solidifying its reputation for intolerance, and this year for any -- for almost any kind of difference in american society, is going down a very dangerous long-term road. and they might see some short-term things, although i think the american people are better than that. >> anita, let me ask you about this word tolerance. i mean, what about toll rabs for the views of the thousands of families of those who died on 9/11? the hundreds thousands of new yorkers are saying, please, you have a right to move the mosque there, but please don't do it, it doesn't belong there. and the vast majority of a...

Boy. that's radical in 2010? >> yeah, joe, this is both depressing and, i guess, predictable in terms of the way our politics plays out. not only this year, but for the past several years. listening to newt gingrich was very, very difficult. to think that this guy was once taken seriously by numbers of american citizens, once he was speaker of the house. to listen to him speak is really, really upsetting because of what he's doing. he indicated yesterday this is nothing more than political pyromania. he is trying to ignite a fire, where a very low flame exists. and you're absolutely right. if ...

>> boom, religious freedom. boom, there you go. you can't be any more clear than that. this was the principle guy that people -- i'm sorry, there's more? okay. >> i was not commenting, and i will not comment on the wisdom of making a decision to put a mosque there. >> well, that's walking it back a little bit there. kind of reminds me a little bit of his campaign slogan. yes, we can. but should we? you know. >> you think that's funny. that's making me tired. >> look at that beautiful shot of new york city, mika. the upper west side. it just slightly glows. the jackie o. reservoir. it's beautif...

Different opinions on this issue. senator reid is a fiercely independent individual and the president believes that is one of his strengths as a leader. of course, reid now just one of many elected officials taking sides on the divisive issue ahead of the midterm elections. >> it speaks to how we, as americans, will honor the memory of those who were killed, murdered by terrorists on september 11th. and the fact that the president, again, is showing a deafness, if you will, to what those feelings are, what that sentiment is, is just quite frankly frustrating and i think it's part of a broader ...

But where does the president stand on what he thinks should happen with this cultural center? >> you know, mark, i do have correct one thing, which senator reid, you know, great democratic leader, but not a client of mine. so i should -- >> oh, sorry. >> the reality is, the president -- the president, you know the president made it very clear that this is, and i think the white house has made it clear, there's a local issue here, which is around the mosque. but there's a broader issue here, which is about religious intolerance. and when you have a political party going down the road of religio...