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The republican party actually believe. do you think that line of argument from stefanik who's now in the house leadership, used to be thought of as a moderate, is that actually -- could that gain traction? >> i think you're absolutely -- i think it absolutely can. i think it already has begun to. look, this isn't the first time in our history or in politics that we've seen really offensively awful language being used, particularly when it comes to immigration policy. it's also not the first time we've seen two things conflated to be equal, particularly from the right. i'm thinking about how of...

I don't think the republican party has done that to the working class whites. >> so okay. so explain the difference in the black community. you said it allows white who support trump the to overlook, not that all of them are racist, but to overlook some of the language and the sentiment. >> right, i think some of those language and sentiments are directed at the black community. of course, they're not going to support trump. i'm not denying that trump is -- i mean, there's a racist component to this. i'm not denying that. >> j.d., i want to give you the last word. go ahead, finish your thought...

>> j.d., i want to give you the last word. go ahead, finish your thought and i'll give j.d. the last word. >> i was saying but to put that on the entire all trump voters i think is extraordinarily unfair. >> agreed. go ahead, j.d. >> i think that the reason these groups haven't been able to find great common purpose is frankly because they've been failed by their political leadership. the democrats are very bad in talking to working class white votes. in the same way, republican voters have not been good attracting working brown voters. that speaks to a failure from the political leadership of...

The former republican congressman in virginia is president of the bernard center for women. is it woman or women? >> women. >> that's the philadelphia accent, probably. policy and politics. tom, you haven't been on in a while. you're a reasonable moderate conservative i guess. you served for a long time with people like cantor. what does this mean? i think it's big time. i think the fact that a leader, the majority leader of the u.s. house of representatives gets knocked off, not scared, knocked off by 11 points, blown away. >> it's certainly going to affect behavior by other republicans who a...

People like cantor. what does this mean? i think it's big time. i think the fact that a leader, the majority leader of the u.s. house of representatives gets knocked off, not scared, knocked off by 11 points, blown away. >> it's certainly going to affect behavior by other republicans who are still facing primaries this cycle. i think of the three senate races you put up there, and my gut is the only one that's going to be really close is mississippi. and we've known that for some time. the tea party national groups haven't really won anything this year. they went after mike simpson in idaho an...