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Now, though, is that students impacted by the pandemic are not to blame and they should be able to move onto the next stage and celebrate their success. sean dilley, bbc news. i'm joined now by steve chalke, the founder and leader of oasis community learning, an academy trust with more than 50 schools across england. good afternoon. good afternoon. are ou good afternoon. good afternoon. are you concerned _ good afternoon. good afternoon. are you concerned by _ good afternoon. good afternoon. are you concerned by a _ good afternoon. good afternoon. are you concerned by a growing - you concerned...

Snapshot of examinations because they were based around coursework, teacher assessment and some tests. he said it was deeper and more holistic and realistic and accurate way of looking at each student's progress. i think to write these off as inflated, i think they should tell us the truth. they tell us the truth about young people who can succeed and do very well and we should celebrate them, don't do as well when just stuck in an exam room. is a better system and perhaps we should keep it. what it also shows, as you said, is this growing gap, and 0fqual themselves said that students, these t...

Don't do what they think is right for them. i think they're not worried about getting the virus. the new information i think about this variant and how contagious it is, i think it may motivate people especially if they've got kids to get vaccinated. >> if that's all it is, if it's circumstanc circumstantial, why do you think there's a growing gap in the counties that biden won versus trump? >> i can't answer that. i can only look here in arizona with the department of health services and it's still that 24 to 44-year-old age group getting it and spreading it in the largest numbers, but it's a...

These are people that are hardworking, family people, busy. and i think they are not worried about getting the virus. the new information i think about this -- um -- about this variant and how contagious it is. i think it may motivate people, especially if they've got kids, to get vaccinated. i'm hoping that's the change. >> but why do you think -- if that's all it is, why do you think -- if it's circumstantial, why do you think that there is a growing gap in the counties that biden won, versus trump? >> i can't answer that. i can only go with what i look at here in arizona with the department...

Individualism is a lie. and by building coalition in community, anything is possible. i owe everything that i am, every victory to the people who have been so faithful in supporting me, in believing in my leadership, and really building me up. this is incredible. >> well, we're going to continue to follow the results here as we are waiting for the final outcome in this mayoral race in buffalo. but india walton, thank you for being with us today. >> thank you. up next, strained relations in the trump family. new cnn reporting on the growing gap between the former president and his own daughte...