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Shaikh mohammed. he is alleged to be one of the masterminds of al qaeda. apprehended in pakistan and transferred to guantanamo partly i think by the bush administration, right? partly as a kind of propaganda ploy. once khalid sheik mohammed was in guantanamo, we just brought him in. when you talk about the politics i want to get back to in a second. guantanamo issue, people forget. this was a consensus position in american politics like so much that consensus fallen apart and like john mccain wanted to close guantanamo. i think what happened was as soon as the president wanted to do it, all of...

For american justice. i am quite an obama fan but i was quite disappointed that he did the u-turn on guantanamo and i think that a lot of people were and i think that given the premise of your movie, robert, i mean, do you share that discomfort that your president right now has allowed guantanamo to continue when he said that he'd shut it down? >> in terms of the guantanamo issue, i'm going to now be political and tell you, i don't -- i'm not comfortable because of the film. i would not want to be talking too much about what the parallels are because i wouldn't want the film to be pushed into ...

>> in terms of the guantanamo issue, i'm going to now be political and tell you, i don't -- i'm not comfortable because of the film. i would not want to be talking too much about what the parallels are because i wouldn't want the film to be pushed into that category. for me the story is about the characters that are underneath the issues. >> well that's an interesting point. because for those who haven't seen it and many of the viewers won't yet, it tells a story of john wilkes booth who was the assassin of abraham lincoln and his apparent co-conspirators who joined in. and your character, rob...

Tenets of justice. that makes us to be -- we, you know, we're inhabiting the moral high ground as it's called. >> when you see what's going on in guantanamo bay, for example, what do you think? >> well, that's a big question. i don't know that i'm qualified to answer, but i mean if it's illegal, then it should stop. you know, you can't fight illegality by illegality. >> europeans feel that guantanamo is a symbol of shame for american justice. i am quite an obama fan but i was quite disappointed that he did the turn on guantanamo and i think that a lot of people were and i think that given the ...

Govern from fear. chris? >> do you -- i thought you had a bite here. anyway, let me ask you about this guantanamo issue. i mean, that's another -- talking about last punch of the bell. that's something that's sort of staggered him over the years, because nimby has been problem for him, not in my backyard. nobody wants this super prison, any super prison to hold these terrorists and suspected terrorists. so where's that stand? the answer to that? >> well, yeah, so he kind of ran through the challenges and did the numbers. the numbers are 262 down to 59. he has transferred 175 detainees. but as ...