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Safe and secure and the new jersey state police monitoring everything from a command post set up in a secret location. very close to metlife. stations with feetsdz from hundreds of cameras so they can keep an eye on things. i spoke to the incident commander about their efforts and about how he really can't relax for the game. >> no, we can't relax, can't let our guard down, can't watch the game. to be watching the game is basically we're not doing our job. we're here to make sure the folks watching the game are basically safe and everything that they -- we need to do provides them the comfort ...

I think they're also trying to defuse what they believe is a republican issue in the next presidential campaign. i'm not talking about a partisan -- talking about a legitimate policy issue. if they're going to claim that these affiliates of al qaeda are not al qaeda and therefore we don't have to be as concerned about them as we do about al qaeda and do not have to maintain anti-terror efforts at, same extent against these affiliates than we do against al qaeda that is very, very real policy issue that has to be discussed. we saw four americans killed because of this group. somehow that is not...

So you pretty much either had to go through or it was part of the initiation to be part of that team. >> you're saying quite a while. how long is quite a while that this was going on. >> i'm not sure how many years it happened. i was there in '98. i know that it happened previously at least two years before that. so it was somewhat of a tradition that they did. >> when does this sort of activity start? did you experience it at all in college? have you heard about that happening in the ncaa? >> i haven't heard about it -- not to that severity of a level. i mean part of being an athlete is you'r...

How am i going to describe them? i didn't know. but i think there's definitely an advantage to going into very complicated situations and asking very simple questions. you know, how do you live? what do you eat? what would you like -- what would you like to be doing next year or the year after that? people let their guard down, whether palestinians in gaza or the west bank, or settlers in the west bank, or urban israelis in tel aviv or jerusalem. people tell you rather remarkable things about themselves ofttimes when you ask those simple questions. >> and did you feel they let their guard down...

Scott weber served as senior council, former homeland security secretary michael chertoff. you know, scott, when we hear about these plots foiled, it almost seems that they sort of wash over us. that's good it didn't happen, glad they got those guys, but how serious should we consider that canada got these guys that were allegedly going to blow up a bridge with a passenger train going over it? >> very serious. and unfortunately, we become desensitized. our alert level ought to be heightened in light of boston, canada and other thwarted plots right here in new york city. we can't let our guard ...