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Years -- betsy woodruff piece. over the years manafort's firm made millions of dollars by representing a rogue gallery of clients, dictators, guerrilla groups and desk pots with no regard for human rights massive amputation ands oversaw state sanctioned rape. the list of manafort's clients is a horror show long before you got to ukraine and russia. mubutu, incredible array. what is that, the fact that paul manafort liked to deal with strong men and donald trump seems to like to have some affinity for strong men. what does that tell you about some of the things that might bind them together? >>...

>> it seems to be we don't know what the larger strategy is. we haven't heard enough from this president about it, and this delegation of authority does mean that they're committed to stay, but we don't know what the mission is. what are they really trying to accomplish? the commanding general said this week that there will be an enduring u.s. presence there because they do expect, as general petraeus said, that guerrilla groups will pop up. the islamic state have lost the territory, but they have not disappeared. they're going to move on in iraq, trying to regain town and city after city as y...

The generals the authority they need, let them fight isis, and not worry about it? >> it seems to be -- we don't know what the larger strategy is. we haven't heard enough from this president about it, and this delegation of authority does mean that they're committed to stay, but we don't know what the mission is. what are they really trying to accomplish? the commanding general said this week that there will be an enduring u.s. presence there because they do expect, as general petraeus said, that guerrilla groups will pop up. the islamic state have lost the territory, but they have not disappe...

But does he have a larger vision? does he have a bigger strategy beyond that, or is it just give the generals the authority they need, let them fight isis, and not worry about it? >> it seems to be we don't know what the larger strategy is. we haven't heard enough from this president about it, and this delegation of authority does mean that they're committed to stay, but we don't know what the mission is. what are they really trying to accomplish? the commanding general said this week that there will be an enduring u.s. presence there because they do expect, as general petraeus said, that guer...

Explain. i mean, the narrative of his career over decades in washington is not just these newest revelations about ukraine. he has a long history working in a firm and lobbying for various foreign governments that include despots, dictator, guerrilla groups, people like the government of angola during a very violent time in that country's history. he has this whole career to explain with regards to lobbying foreign governments. >> and michael, the -- carter page saying today he refused to answer a question about whether he has a been questioned by the fbi. but if there was a fisa warrant aimed...