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This is a sanctuary city debate. it is pretty heated across thesa country. the cato institute has traditionally been for very generous and increased immigration. illegal immigration, guest workers, foreign workers, temporary workers, pretty much across the board. does the cato institute, which you represent, do they believe any criminal aliens should be deported? if so, when and which type? >> absolutely. we have written extensively about the time, both on the local level, local government should arrest immigrants, and on the federal government, when they should deport them. we think we should...

Korean regime. >> unanimous condemnation from the u.n. security council, unwavering defiance from north korea. >> there is no bigger mistake than the united states believing that its land is safe across the ocean. >> north korea is promising, quote, thousand fold revenge across the united states as its allies and even allies voted 15-0 on the united nations security council to impose strict new sanctions on north korean coal exports and guest workers. >> i think the strong u.n. security council resolution unanimously approved working in coordination with russia and china both to put out a stat...

>> if you reduced the levels of legal immigration, you may actually increase the incentive for people to come legal-illegal. >> they will still want to come over the bored and bring flame members over for workers. but you need to increase the number of guest worker visas. streamline the program it's almost impossible for a lot of employers to sponsor guest workers. you increase legal immigration and reduce illegal immigration. paul: the politics of this? the president is trying to change the subject? >> the issue on talk radio for years was illegal immigration, mexicans and latin americans com...

Or 8% of economic output. so if their wages rise 10%, the impact on the consumers is strong. the poor are poor and giving them a raise by lowering the level of immigration makes sense for them and for taxpayers. there is a large fiscal drain. take the area of agriculture, we currently have an unlimited program to bring in guest workers and agriculture. >> yes, it is broken. 50 to 75% of workers are foreign born. we need them to come work. there are millions of americans struggling. that automation and globalization are having real impacts. we need to get serious.

>> if you reduced the levels of legal immigration, you may actually increase the incentive for people to come legal-illegal. >> they will still want to come over the bored and bring flame members over for workers. but you need to increase the number of guest worker visas. streamline the program it's almost impossible for a lot of employers to sponsor guest workers. you increase legal immigration and reduce illegal immigration. paul: the politics of this? the president is trying to change the subject? >> the issue on talk radio for years was illegal immigration, mexicans and latin americans com...