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Potential nightmare as well because they don't really know the long-term effects of all of those gallons of dispersant, these poisons that were thrown into the gulf of mexico. >> we did get some good news the other day from the epa. they were saying that once they saw that they combined that dispersant with the oil it didn't make the oil any more toxic so with that in mind they said it was a good decision, a wise movie think was the quote to use that dispersant on the oil and keep it from reaching shore. they said all along it was a trade-off. they'll see what sort of consequences these decisi...

You don't mess around with mother nature. if she says you are not going to fly that day, you don't push it, you don't fly. >> greta: you worked on the north slope how long? >> from '89 to last september. >> greta: people now about the gulf of mexico and prudhoe bay. different situation in terms of [ inaudible ] >> we have shallow wart we are drilling in offshore in alaska. arctic conditions, different from the gulf and different technology is needed. >> the arctic environment compared to the gulf environment, [ inaudible ] >> greta: what about -- we've seen the horrible catastrophe in the gulf...

I believe the president. i think he has done a lot. i think he's done as much as he can do, but tonight i don't think that he can go to the oval office without drawing a line in the sand and making demands. president obama needs to use his power and really show some guts. that's really what this is all about at this point. can the president of the united states take it to a multi-national corporation that is butchering our environment? this is what the president said earlier in pensacola today. >> my administration is going to do whatever it takes for as long as it takes to deal with this disa...

The president has to be crystal clear tonight that you and i aren't going to get gamed for the bill on all of this. tell me what you think in our telephone survey folks. the number to dial is 1-877-ed-msnbc. my question tonight is does president obama have the guts to force bp to pay every dime for this disaster? press the number one for yes, press the number two for no. i'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me now is ohio congressman dennis kucinich joining us here on "the ed show" tonight. congressman, good to have you with us. >> good to be here. >> i know my radio audien...

Is chump change in this escrow account and that we're going to get a third party that's going to look out for american citizens and our environment. our environment is not and does not have a price tag on it. that's really what we want to know tonight, mr. president. can you stand up to bp? b perk has vast oil reserves and a big bank account, but getting money out of these guys is like getting blood out of iraq. look at all of the different incidents that they've been involved in and have been able to weasel out of it legally in the past with minimal price paid. mr. president, i want to see th...