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Terminate this transaction. joining me now, krystal ball and ari melber. we have one merchant of the tools of murder who is unwilling to sell them to at least one american. >> standing up for gun control, yeah. i like that when the politics of the issue went to a place he didn't like, not only was he ready to discard the second amendment but also the first and any others convenient to get the gun nuts on the blog back on his side. one of the things that has been interesting in this debate, when you talk about the specifics of the issue, when you talk about what we are advocating for, universal...

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At this point we have more than 900 mayors around the country, 100 are republicans. we have almost 1.5 million grassroot supporters and all of them are about as heated up as we have seen about anything. they recognize this is a national moment. if you're going to turn this issue around, now is the time. we've sent more than 200,000 e-mails into the white house and members of congress and shut down switch board and won a major victory in colorado that was pretty hard fought. i think the predicate is there. success is patchwork but it is going to come. >> how do you get people to remind themselv...

Success is patchwork but it is going to come. >> how do you get people to remind themselves? i know this is a tough one. the gun owner cleans his gun, he packs his shells, he goes hunting, he goes skeet shooting, he has friends who are hunters. he's constantly reinvesting in their gun. they're t not gun nuts but that point of view has a self energizing as expect to it. how does a person who doesn't want a gun in their house, doesn't want their kids to have a gun, doesn't even go to movies with guns in it, how does that person keep in mind and their hearts the determination to vote for gun safe...

>> they said i signed on to the party of lincoln and these guys signed off from the party of lincoln. >> exactly. they're the opposite now. >> i know who you're talking about. i go back to my point, white people don't like to be thought of as racist. a lot of them aren't. some are, and of course some are trying to get over it over the years. to be in a party with somebody standing up saying, let's go back to before the emancipation proclamation is wacky. thank you, governor rendell, thank you, joy. as always, you were wonderful at the end. i'll have to listen it again. coming up, the big ann...