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And time and time again. but now michael cohen, the guy who is going to take the bullet has the gunpointing at him and is in a real bind and i bet you he's got some evidence. he's got more to show than just his work. >> sources close to him say that's exactly what's going on, that he has more to tell. it is of relevance to congress, relevance to the merrill probe on all that, steve. just to be clear, i'm not saying the president is guilty of campaign finance. i don't think it's a stretch. that's not my point. when you're dealing with a federal investigation, the rules aren't like what they are...

Because to be in that position with that amount of explosives, if those are packets of krx 4, some other explosive device, i would have had had whole city block cordoned off until you could determine if that was an explosive device. >> you point out, when you look at the hands of the office here's are standing over him. they don't have a gun pointing directly at that person on the ground. neither officer seems to be in a position of fearing for themselves. >> sure. and there is a page in the isis, or the islamic terrorist play book which is this. a lot of times when you recruit folks like this...

Eliminate south korea. they could just -- they could just start -- you've seen these pictures of all those guns firing at once. they could just do it and they could do it because we said the wrong thing in a press conference. >> or a tweet. >> yes. >> there's a certain amount -- you know, this unpredictability -- >> you like that? >> i do like it because i think it's throwing our enemies off balance. [ overlapping voices ] >> take a look at the other guy on the other side. do you want to confront him with unpredictability, that guy with the haircut? >> well, here's the deal. he's off balance. ...

Said is negligent. so what i'm telling you is that maybe, there's a lot of miscues leading up to that shooting. but the negligent piece of it is indisputable to me. >> i think there is no question there is negligence in not informing the police that the 911 call said it wias a toy gun >> imagine in police had withheld fire and this man had a gun and killed two or three children we would be looking at it different. we have to look through the eyes of the police at the moment they had to make a decision. i agree. i think they lied about what happened and there was negligence after the fact but y...

His hand. william long anecessary live in l.a. what do police say actually happened, william? >> well, you know, gretchen, l.a. did not want another ferguson or baltimore situation so it released surveillance video within hours which today claims shows the shooting was justified after multiple 911 calls of a man firing a gun in the neighborhood. >> 911, what's your emergency? >> yeah. there's an african-american walking down palm avenue and oak, and he's just -- he has a gun shooting into the air. >> 911. what's your emergency? >> i saw a guy holding a gun pointing at people. >> what's your em...