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Lucky he took them out. but that doesn't mean we don't have a tremendous gun problem in this country. >> jesse: we're lucky. they polled this. people trust a regular citizen with a gun sometimes more than police officerings because police officers, they're few and far between. if there's a civilian there during the shooting, they can neutralize that shooter like that. >> dana: the first people to call him a hero were the cops. it took 11 minutes after the 911 call for the police to get there. >> jesse: exactly. >> dana: the local news agency there, wthr, want to give them credit. they approach...

>> harry, congressman jolly, thank you both so much. much secretary castro you are saying with me. next, our nation's refusal to deal with its gun problem. and how it's affecting american life. plus, the governor of texas is at it again. his new move on the southern border putting the state at odds with the federal government. first to richard louis who is standing by with a look at the other big stories we are watching this hour on msnbc. richard? >> thank you alicia. the remains of former japanese prime minister, shinzo abe, arriving in his home in tokyo this morning. the vigil for abe is sc...

Prime minister was part of a group that he hates. has there been any headway on figuring out what this group might be that he is referring to? >> what we know so far, based on the reports, is that he told investigators it wasn't a political motive. and that the group was a religious one that his mother was interested in. and he was frustrated at abe because of it was connected to it. it's a really fluid situation and so that's all we have heard so far, from all the media reports. but as you mentioned there are so many questions about exactly what type of gun he built, with the ammunition was, ...

Investigators it wasn't a political motive. and that the group was a religious one that his mother was interested in. and he was frustrated at abe because of it was connected to it. it's a really fluid situation and so that's all we have heard so far, from all the media reports. but as you mentioned there are so many questions about exactly what type of gun he built, with the ammunition was, what his motivations were, and i imagine all these questions are what investigators will be focused on in the days and weeks to come. >> we reported earlier that local police didn't know of abe 's particip...

Thank you so. much secretary john you are saying with me. next, our nation's refusal to deal with its gun problem. and how it's affecting american life. plus, the governor of texas is at it again. his new move on the southern border putting the state at odds with the federal government. first to richard louis who is standing by with a look at the other big stories we are watching this hour on msnbc. richard? >> thank you alicia. the remains of former japanese prime minister, shinzo abe, arriving in his home in tokyo this morning. the vigil for abe is scheduled monday night, funeral services fo...