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It debunks it. but there is also sorry -- look, i'm a social studies teacher. sorry to bring up some facts. there are also studies that show the higher incidents of gun usage in a community means that there are more kids that get hurt. the lower incidents of guns in community like in australia, like in new york state these days means that fewer kids get hurt. >> so give me -- what are your suggestions? how do we go about tackling this? >> so first off, let's lift up what the kids are doing in douglas. many of us have fought these fights for years and we have not been able to break through. and...

Great people. but take a step back. talk about what the nra has been doing, robocalling people in newtown trying to bolster support and get their money. the nra is funded primarily from gun money and gun sales have exploded since sandy hook, particularly of the very ar-15 assault rifle that adam lanza used. that's where i agree it's a sick reaction. this is not a normal civilized country's reaction, let alone the world's great superpower. it makes me so angry to hear that poor woman who has just gone out for a walk with her baby and had her baby blown to pieces. >> as a society, is the reactio...

The nra is funded primarily from gun money and gun sales have exploded since sandy hook, particularly of the very ar-15 assault rifle that adam lanza used. that's where i agree it's a sick reaction. this is not a normal civilized country's reaction, let alone the world's great superpower. it makes me so angry to hear that poor woman who has just gone out for a walk with her baby and had her baby blown to pieces. >> as a society, is the reaction purely at a defensive posture and fear and probably hate, which causes us to go out and buy assault weapons because of the prospect of violence, or is ...