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He was taken. the degree of anger among soldiers on e-mail is unbelievable. that needs to be taken seriously. those are the people who fought in the same company in some cases and feel they sacrificed to get this guy back who may have behaved irresponsibly. we need honesty about that. what did susan rice know about the investigation about bergdahl? it's one thing to trade terrorists for a real p.o.w., someone taken honorable fighting on the battlefield. it's different to trade for someone who walked away. >> we don't know all the details this morning. but obviously there is a lot of concern am...

On shinseki's resignation from the lawmaker who's very much involved in veterans issues, senator bernie sanders is the chairman of the veteran affairs committee in the senate, joining us from burlingtoburlington, ve. you were reluctant to call on shinseki to resign. what's your reaction to what happened today? >> i'm saddened. in eric shinseki, you have a true american hero. that's not just the purple hearts that he won in battle or his role as army chief of staff. this is a guy back in 2003 that did something unprecedented in modern history. he told don rumsfeld, secretary of defense at that ...

Fairly grave danger if he came back to population and it would take several months of an investigation and stuff from our intel people to determine if it would be safe for him to go back into population. >> i'm pretty sure the individual that it belonged to will be pretty upset. but when you're in that game, that's a risk you take. you never know what's going to happen. >> he's either going to have to come up with thousands of dollars to pay that guy back, or he's in trouble. because kind of the code in here is if you're holding my drugs, you're responsible for them. we've had inmates die for ...

But, to me, if you want to get this guy back, you have got to bring heat on pakistan, because, just as i am convinced having dealt with the pakistanis they knew all along where bin laden was. i suspect the pakistani intelligence services know where this guy is if they don't they could still help us. >> if we are making a full, hearted earth to go and find him. the second question then to you is, colonel, okay, what if the hostages, the people who have taken him hostage, ask us to negotiate with them. do you say yes or no? >> i said. no no. and i will repeat it no. you do not negotiate with ter...

Special op.s is trying. but, to me, if you want to get this guy back, you have got to bring heat on pakistan, because, just as i am convinced having dealt with the pakistanis they knew all along where bin laden was. i suspect the pakistani intelligence services know where this guy is if they don't they could still help us. >> if we are making a full, hearted earth to go and find him. the second question then to you is, colonel, okay, what if the hostages, the people who have taken him hostage, ask us to negotiate with them. do you say yes or no? >> i said. no no. and i will repeat it no. you d...