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Systematically killed these people, totally innocent people, to make this sick point and now we let the guy go who we now know did it under this bogus -- he's been alive for years. i don't know how bogus this was. your thoughts, david. sheer politics and why wasn't the president louder on this a year ago when he got up? backing up the tory prime minister now. a little late on the draw here. your thoughts. >> i had a friend that day who had a ticket for that flight but she didn't make the connecting flight so she wasn't on it. so i nearly lost a close friend in that explosion, so these things d...

Also, wondering what your plans are, how to spin it when one of your members does actually kill somebody, wondering how if you've got an actual p.r. spinning routine planned for that. or are you just going to take it when it happens? just curious. give me a call when you get a chance, thanks so much. megyn: believe it or not, now lance baxter, the man who left that voice mail, is threatening legal action against freedom works. my next guest is the target of the threats, matt kibbe, president and ceo of free ma'am works. matt, thank you for being here. you guys at freedom works, which is a tea ...

Decades, megyn, that the u.s. government does have the right to indefinitely hold these alleged terrorists, okay? so one of the things that the obama administration is looking at is indefinite detention for some of these most dangerous. that's why the attorney general has come out and said, look, i have no doubt that khalid sheikh mohammed is never going to see the light of day again. how do you know that? they know that because even if the he is acquitted or a judge lets the guy go, well, we're going to remand him back into federal custody for the rest of his life which raises the question, w...

From this tape. you can argue and debate whether you heard that he was going to pay cash or not. what you can't argue is the fact that the man lied to the american public and had the people working for him lie to the american people. i think this is a nightmare scenario for donald trump. he has got two guys who are deeply ingrained in his organization who handled not only personal issues but also financial issues and business issues. you have his money man and his fixer, his personal fixer who are now under legal scrutiny. michael cohen under much more than legal scrutiny. you have seen the gu...

Because he cease himself in rob porter. >> well, obama, as president was known as no drama obama. and he could be cool is for school. and i was a big fan. he never was rattled. he was never sweating in the job, he was never confused. there was never fights going on among the domestic staff. i'm talking about in the oval office, the oval office turmoil. i want to ask you, here is what did -- peggy noonan, she is so smart. she said in "the wall street journal." actually said this on the weekend on "meet the press" with chuck. she said that the white house might have let rob porter stay on becaus...