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Qualified. she believes that the consumer bureau should actually look out for consumers. i ucan see that she is troubled by the trump administration's actions. she is troubled that they brought a guy in. one of the first things mulvaney did was stop the payments that were due to consumers, to veterans, to service members, to consumers who were wronged by any number of financial institutions. they were going to have to pay out, pay these consumers. they stopped payment. you can see whose side he is on. >> wait. they did that today? >> they did -- that's one of the first things mulvaney did toda...

Deal, because the president responded and it seems like you're in a little bit of a war of words. with the most powerful man in the world. >> why would i be in war with a guy in -- the most powerful man in the world? >> that's my question. why would you take on donald trump after he helped your kid? >> i don't know. what do you mean, take on donald trump? take on him for what? what are we doing for each other? >> that's a good question, i know what he did for you. >> what are we doing for each other. >> and instead of saying thank you, you took a shot at him. >> what did he do for me? >> he he...

Confirmation hearings, recused from russian investigation. general michael flynn fired for misleading the vice president about russian contacts. george papadopoulos, who is new on the radar, pled guilty to lying to the fbi about russian contact during the campaign. what's at the root of this, do you think? >> contact with the russians for whatever purposes, whether it's some kind of shady financial transaction, or it was more likely an attempt by the russian government using operatives, and not just operatives, but low-level cutouts and emissaries of the government, right? it's about plausible...

Transaction, or it was more likely an attempt by the russian government using operatives, and not just operatives, but low-level cutouts and emissaries of the government, right? it's about plausible deniability. you don't send a guy in who says hello, i'm an officer of the svr. you send in a businessman or an academic or think tanker to do the work of recruiting. cultivating a relationship with the trump campaign. because look, trump has auditioned to be vladimir putin's best friend. you'd have to be an idiot if you're in moscow center not to realize that there was an opportunity here, right? ...

Kelly doesn't see, for a bunch of reasons, doesn't see their experience as being particularly instructive for what he is at the white house to do. >> what are his reasons not thinking it matters? one is that he has 40 years of experience in the military overseeing, managing men and wi women. a product of where even his career, he doesn't think he needs help in terms of understanding how to manage an organization. the other is, he's only 9 second modern day general after hague, served in the nixon administration. different from the civilians in the past. obviously, the biggest one is the guy in...