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Davidian. they organized the raid, but to come up with the idea he justified the raids because he wanted to come out with gun control. it wasn't gun control. >> he said the president wanted them dead because they liked they're guns. >> what about militia members after those two guys were executed? the guys who blew up the oklahoma city. they're dead. and then he celebrates the fact that we've got militias. >> and your point is? i mean, that's who he is. this is -- this guy is -- >> what does he say at town meetings, as opposed to 1994. let's listen. >> like you mentioned, he's putting in all o...

Murdering people merely to further his assault gun ban. >> explain how that would work? here's the question. wait a minute. how do you organize -- >> you don't want to follow. >> how do you organize branch davidion? to come up with the idea he justified the raids because he wanted to come out against gun control. >> he said the president wanted them dead because they liked their guns. you can't go down that path. >> the people who believe that you lost them. you lost them there. >> what about militia members after those two guys were executed? one of them was. the other in jail for life. but t...

My favorite is people like me are what stand between us and auschwitz. people like me. so newt gingrich is all that stands between -- hold on a second -- this guy is -- in newt gingrich's opinion this guy is the only person that stands between us and a holocaust that kills 6 million americans. wow. so he also talks about how he may have to raise an army. >> yes. >> to defend civilization. that he is all that stands between america and the end of civilization and he is going to be the leader of that civilization and may possibly have to raise armies. >> indeed. >> for that civilization. >> ther...

Howard stern is in negotiations to be one of the judges. you remember when "american idol" was interested in a judge, if you know howard stern at all, the content is more on the racy side. >> on the racy side? it is racy. >> it's interesting to think he might be a j. is could reinvent his image and he will probably get $15 million to do it. >> "america's got talent" is a live show which i did not know. >> they will put it on delay. >> i'm curious about fan reaction and it will be great for a buzz and great for the tv audience who watch this. it is kind of a family -- not that he can't be -- th...

even thinking about that. >> jack hanna talking about what he says is the saddest day of his life. hear more from him later tonight about those animals, the animals that never should have been kept where they were and whose lives never had had to end the way they did. you will hear as well from the local sheriff whose deputies became reluctant hunters in the name of public safety. er are live on the scene later this evening. we begin however tonight keeping them honest, holding the people who want to be president to their word. >> you wouldn't hear a lot of shape-shifting nuance fr...