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Wouldn't recuse yourself is because you want to have this advantage. and you want to be blatantly out there, saying i'm going to do what i want, even if we have to change the rules. even -- desantis in florida said i am going to leave what i am doing in congress and run in florida. this guy kemp hasn't done that when he is directly involved in the voting process. so he would, i mean jim crow would blush if he would see this guy kemp. >> it seems to me that we talk to much about the trump effect, one of the effects of trump seems to this be disregard for, we don't know that he broke the law, bu...

And none of the plaintiffs. this is -- on top of that, to have kemp in charge of the process, it is as tainted as you can get. >> why wouldn't he recuse himself? >> the only reason you wouldn't recuse yourself is because you want to have this advantage, and you want to be blatantly out there saying, i'm going to do what i want, even if we have to change the rules. even de santos said i'm going to leave what i'm doing in congress and run against gilliam in florida. this guy kemp has not even done that when he is directly involved in the voting process. so he would -- i mean, jim crow would blus...

Kemp's opponent stacey abrams is demanding kemp resign from his post as secretary of state. but time is running short. georgia's deadline to register is tuesday. the midterms are in 25 days, and they are locked out in a tight race. abrams and kemp are statistically tied right now, according to a poll released yesterday. the panel still here. rev, this seems like it's not even voter suppression disguised as something else. >> no, this is blatant. first of all, you should never have the secretary of state who is over the voting process remain in office in any election that he's in. but on top of...