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Predictably when very little -- we are not talking about a terrorist investigation. when very little came of it. i think it's pretty unusual. judge jeanine: my final question. when president obama ended up kick out a number of russian official, i believe there were 35 russian operatives, he did not throw out this ambassador kislyak who jeff sessions as information met with which wasn't unusual for him to meet with an ambassador. why is there all this hoopla about kislyak being a bad guy? >> kislyak may be a bad guy. but the point is he is the russian ambassador, and that appointment with sessi...

Was into the election itself. so separate and distinct. i think it will all be bundled into one. but the start of the investigation in 2015 was different than the one he ended up doing after the election. number two, what you should listen to what paul ryan said, the interview where he said about sessions, unless sessions is under investigation, he then wouldn't have to recuse himself. if he is, he should. judge jeanine: he's not under investigation and nobody is claiming that. he met with the russian ambassador just like nancy pelosi who denied she ever met this guy kislyak, she lied about th...

Role he played in the trump campaign at the time. everyone was talking about russia hacking this election. it was also around the time when obama imposed the sanctions against russia and russia was mad at obama and clinton. jeff sessions ran and led the foreign policy and national security team for donald trump. of course, the ambassador of russia wanted to meet with jeff sessions during that time. judge jeanine: i never said jeff sessions ran the national security team. >> carter page. judge jeanine: at the time he met him, the fisa warrant was turned down. there wasn't enough to get a warran...

Conversation with kislyak for the role he was playing with trump. if sessions discussed sanctions with kislyak in that meeting he will have to resign. judge jeanine: he's in a meeting with 10 other people. >> russia was never a problem for the democrats until typical of democrats, something they believe happened to them, now all of a sudden because they believe they lost an election because of russian tint force, now russia is this world power that has to be taken care of as opposed to all the years before when obama is like i can have a reset with these folks. now all of a sudden because russ...

Him today a top spy from russia, why didn't president obama order him out of the country with the other top russian officials he threw out? >> it's a great question and another tactic the democrats are using to continue to painted that somehow hillary clinton's loss was because donald trump and the russians were working together to get information out about a private serve offer that -- a private server that hillary clinton wasn't supposed to have. judge jeanine: if this same guy kislyak was at the obama white house 22 times, how can he be such a top russian dirt bag. >> the reason they didn't...