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>> shepard: that's it now. >> no. the bottom line is he still has the opportunity to be the conservative alternative to romney. >> shepard: what about rick perry. >> he is on the move and has resources. he is starting to sail a little bit. it's really those three that can play here plus paul. paul could win iowa very easily. >> shepard: ron paul as a third party candidate. >> that will guarantee obama getting reelected. >> shepard: is that to say ron paul won't do that? back up to 2000 will, nobody wanted him in the debates. nobody would put him on television. this time he is the most organize...

>> cocoa joe. >> skunk. >> stinky, because it sprayed me. >> everybody said i kind of looked like dracula and people started to call me drac for short and it took. >> and cocoa for cocaine or cocoa man or what? >> i don't know, they gave me that name. >> you have to hustle, and that is how i got the name hustle. >> ben quick, i don't know how i got that one. >> what does it stand for? >> it is a nickname my grandfather gave me as a baby. >> and i'm the littlest guy out there, and that is how i got those three. >> they call me outlaw. >> outlaw? >> yeah. >> self-explanatory? >> yes, it is self-...

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