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Paraphrasing that the state of israel has the right to defend itself and we would never defer in the exercise of that right, even to our greatest friend, which is the united states. in other words, -- >> bill: on that issue and that's the key issue in the region right now. now, cammeron has been looking at marco rubio and rand paul. and you consider these two guys rivals for the republican nomination in 2016. now they have staked out different territory on immigration. tell me where each guy stands on the proposed new immigration bill. it's been amazing to watch them both dance through immigra...

Likable. this is the idea of personal substance that you can be counted on to do the right thing because you are who you say you are. you are not acting. this is a sort of intangible currency that campaigns are always competing for at every level. but it's particularly so at the end of big races where the people who haven't been persuaded by the more overt arguments and policy differences are the ones who are going to make the final decision. at the end of the day people who have no reason to vote one way or the other will vote for who the person they trust not to pull one over on them. that's...

All watch these debates, you really don't have the knowledge that you might need as a voter to know whether this syncs with what the guy stands for or it's merely a performance and i wonder whether if this guy, mr. romney, governor romney, is able to say something like, well, all pre-existing conditions will be covered and then have his guy go out later this night and tell a few people who read the newspapers, oh, it doesn't really cover you unless you're already covered which doesn't mean anything. your thoughts, ron. will television deceive? >> yes, it does deceive. candidates deceive. it's ...

Stiff, very wooden, a little bit defensive in many spots. and it did not translate well. and the issue was huge for a lot of conservatives who were attending the event that weekend. other aspect that was fascinating that the rock that was michele bauchmann that was on top fast has fallen. >> can you believe how quickly she's collapsed? >> and the reality there is it's the hpv issue. a lot of conservatives thought that she has, one put it to me over the weekend, made us look like no nothings. i think that did not translate well to a lot of folks. and herman cain has been consistent. he's been a...

Free market that believe in immigration. if the president's serious about immigration reform, they will come forward. but he hasn't reached out to republicans. this whole talk of bipartisanship -- >> i disagree -- >> summits and statements -- >> look, barack obama is no ronald reagan. ronald reagan stood for principle. this guy stands for polls. >> he's not nearly as liberal as ronald reagan. he's never said complete amnesty. >> here's the difference between him and ronald reagan -- >> he's controlled by the unions. >> you can prove quantitatively that these republicans have filibustered, have...