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>> so all this combined with the new president obama as celebrity ad, this paints the romney camp, strategy as being the serious guy versus the cool guy. is this something that you think romney can win with? >> well these are serious times. i mean celebrity has not worked in a lot of ways. so the points that ed made on the lead-in to this clip are relevant points, we can continue to choose kind of anemic economic growth. drifting towards the waterfall that is the big debt problem in this country, leading if behind on foreign policy. the question is, is celebrity going to create jobs? and if th...

Norm rather than the exception. we have to take these excellence and make them systems of excellence. that's what we're working so hard to do. because of the innovation of school superintendents, principals, school boards that will take our country where we need to go. >> senator duncan, thank you for your time. >> thank you. spy versus spy meant guy versus guy, which makes today's most important person you don't be all the more interesting. she's the first person ever to she's the first person ever to run a u.s. intelligence agency.

Short guy versus abraham lincoln, the tall guy. each of their debates were hours long. they did do this series of seven in a row in seven different towns. mostly what they debated was slavery, lincoln's opposition to slavery versus douglas' belief that individual states should decide what they want to do on the issue. at the end of those absolutely legendary seven debates, abraham lincoln lost because the legendary lincoln/douglas debates of 1858, those were not presidential debates. those were debates for an illinois senate seat. stephen douglas was the incouple be -- incumbent senator from i...

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